Season 1, Episode 012
In this episode of Legally Blissed Conversations, we are joined by Danielle Bass, a corporate attorney focused on transactional matters involving information technology and intellectual property who has followed her passion for teaching and mentorship.
Danielle undertakes many pro bono matters, including acting as general counsel to a local 501(c)(3) non-profit organization that provides music education to children and has completed over two dozen name changes for members of the transgender community.
She frequently guest lectures at the University of Michigan Law School on transactional and intellectual property practical matters and will teach a practical course on Technology Transactions. Danielle was recognized in Crain’s Detroit’s 2021 class of Notable Women in Law.
“Time is of the essence. Invest time in what brings you joy and pure love. Everything else is a waste of time.” -Danielle
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/danielle-bass-71324510b/
Transcript
Suzi: Welcome, Danielle bass. Thank you so much for hanging out with me today on the legally bliss podcast. So let me tell everyone, just a little bit about Danielle. She is a corporate attorney at Wilson Sonsini Goodrich and Rosati where she focuses her practice on transactional matters involving information technology, my favorite intellectual property, data and media with an emphasis on commercial relationships. Daniel frequently drafts and negotiates various agreements regarding the development, license and transfer of intellectual property at property, media and technology. Prior to joining W str. Danielle was a partner at Honigman and a corporate finance associate at dichotomic. Offset Danielle earned her JD from the University of Michigan Law School where she graduated magna cum laude and order the kois when Danielle is not on the clock, you can find her on her yoga mat or in the kitchen with her daughter baking. So thanks again for hanging out with me. Today, Danielle, let me ask you what is your favorite treat to bake with your little girl?
Danielle: It’s tough. So she she’s big on scones. It’s actually like the cutest thing she she we make scones in the airfryer of all things. And her favorite thing is like helping me mix and then we put it in the airfryer. And she likes like raised cinnamon raisin scones. And last week we made pumpkin spice. Oh, Lord. Oh my gosh, that sounds amazing how they turn out, they turn out okay. They turned out good. She told me that they were too dark on the top. But that’s just like how air fryers work but we’re working on it.
Suzi: You know, work in progress, right?
Danielle: I’m like every day of my life is like Top Chef toddler edition. And I haven’t you know been fired yet. So I just I nodded. I say Thank you, Chef, but and we call it a day.
Suzi: Yeah, yeah. I love that. I love that. So you also said that you are on your yoga mat? A lot. So let me ask you. How has yoga impacted your legal practice?
Danielle: Excellent question. So it’s ironic, but the owner of my yoga studios and acts like tax lawyer of all things. But really, I started practicing. I was a three sport athlete in high school. And I started practicing, like, as soon as I finished my track season, my senior year, and it really just helped make me present for an hour or however many, you know, minutes of my day where I can connect with my body get out of my head and just feel like I’m like getting the Yes, I was like I like to say it and it makes me more present makes me more thoughtful. And it helps me in in my everyday work in just like taking a breath, taking a beat, taking a pause. Besides just like the physical benefits. It’s more of just like, letting my mind marinate around whatever is happening. I do transactional work, like you mentioned, and oftentimes, it’s not as contentious as I’d say, are my friends and litigation, but it is the situation where both parties want to have their way. And so trying to advocate for your client, you know, aggressively or zealously as well as you know, getting a deal done is a very, you know, tough tightrope to walk. So it helps me do that. And it also just not being on a screen for an hour. I remember just like being in college, and it was like the only time I was away from my phone. And that was like really monumental. And now it’s literally I’m away from every screen available to me.
Suzi: That’s amazing. So you have sort of your own kind of internal, I guess, practice that you’re doing versus following a video, particularly when you’re like at your
Danielle: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So during the pandemic, I built myself a hot yoga studio.
Suzi: Good for you.
Danielle: Are you really the only thing keeping me going, but I do live streaming with my studio, and then I practice on my own.
Suzi: So I love that. I love that. So you love yoga? And okay, so let me ask you this, this is this is really cool. You told me something about you that I thought was absolutely fascinating. And when you told me, I was like, Oh, my gosh, I have to talk with her. You manage to become a partner, by the time you’re 29 years old. And I know like, as you know, many of us when we, we get out of law school, you know, if we go straight to law school, like we’re looking 22, out of law out of college, right? 25 out of law school and being general and being very general. And that’s like your traditional kind of path. And that’s a fairly like, straightforward path. And even at that point, I couldn’t imagine making partner at 29 years old. So I want to know how you did this.
Danielle: Excellent question. No. And it’s funny, because I had found in undergrad, I had done like a capstone course, where we were just thinking about where we would like to be in 10 years, and I was 22. I was 2122, I was 21. And, you know, I had drawn a picture of myself at 21. And then at 22. And, and I said, I’m going to have, you know, I’m going to be married, I’ve been dating my now husband, at the time, we’ve been married, I’m going to have one kid, which I knew somehow was going to be a girl. And I’ve, like forgotten about that. And I’ll be partner at a law firm, and like, all this stuff, and like I had forgotten that I like made all these plans. And then here I was, you know, January 2020, looking at this picture me like, Whoa, I did all of the things, it’s like vision boarding, you know, times a million. So I started my career at, like you mentioned at a Dykema got that as a general corporate associate, I did everything kind of just like soup to nuts, securities financing, corporate governance, all of that fun stuff. And I really always liked soft IP, I liked commercial transactions, I liked the vibe of just helping businesses, get a tool, get a service, you know, sell something, buy something rather than, like companies, which felt very just like, just it just not my speed in terms of timing, and just like energy. And so I wanted to do more of that work. And, you know, I just wasn’t getting the opportunities that I thought I was, you know, that I needed at the time. And around that time, a good friend of mine who was in law school, when I was an undergrad at Michigan, was moving home. And he was starting the technology transactions practice at Honigman. And was like, come be our first associate hire, and I was like, No, I’m super happy. Because I also thought when you went to a law firm, you went through the whole, you know, just, you know, dating process of interviewing for summer associate position, like you find your firm and you stay committed, you are loyal, you are married. And so there I was, you know, like 18 months, you know, at this firm and thinking like, this isn’t for me, like I struggled with that. So long story short, they ended up leaving leaving Dykema going to Honigman and loving it and really just jumping in with two feet. They have a shorter runway two partnerships. So you’re eligible after year five, which was, which was what a year I was. But it was also what I like to think is just like, I took the bull by the horns, and I took ownership of every single transaction or client interaction that I had, I treated every partner like they were my client, I treated every client like they were, you know, the most important thing in my life. And I tried to learn as much as I could, I was I was the only associate in the group. So I was doing just a ton of reps on everything from you know, services agreements, to, you know, SAS arrangements or licenses and things like that. And the thing that I found, you know, was I quickly earned the trust of a lot of clients, because I was human, to a certain extent, I always like, I think, you get two types of lawyers and big law, like the like, we’re gonna get it done. And this is how it’s going to be and like very prescriptive and like, has kind of no personality and, and like, I like what I do, I want to continue to do this for a very long time. And so like, I tried to get to know my clients, I talked to them, like I would talk to, you know, you or my friends or my family. You know, I make really, really funny metaphors to try to explain business issues to them. And I’ve found over the years that people like that, so I was given a lot of trust, and a lot of responsibility really, really early on, because I indicated I was ready for it. And then I showed that I was so you know, I was a fourth year associate managing $800,000 will book a business and looking at the bills and managing the client relationship. And that was
Suzi: Amazing.
Danielle: So yeah, I made partner at 29 with my I think 18 month in tow I had been on maternity leave the year before and that was a big concern of mine. Yeah, and that was that was a hard kind of management of work life balance is a you know, Leila my daughter. She’s just figuring out how to be present for her but also be present for my clients and and just being honest about that. But it took a lot of grit, a lot of, you know, mental toughness. So a lot of sweat on my yoga mat.
Suzi: But Leila on board, I love that. So this is I can tell that client experience is super important to you. And you have, you have a track record of going above and beyond for your clients. Like I love the idea of doing with the metaphors, it’s really cool. They were able to develop trust in you, even though you were a young associate. Right. And I think that sometimes clients are like, Oh, she’s so young, you know, can she do this? So can you give me like, one of your favorite tips in terms of how to make your clients feel amazing or appreciated?
Danielle: Yeah, so in the type of work that I do, I’m often communicating either with directly with business people, so people that don’t have any legal experience, and I’m really kind of talking in layman’s terms with them, or I’m working with in house counsel that isn’t necessarily up to speed on the particular subject matter that I’m an expert in. So a lot of what I’m doing and something that I think no one really teaches you in law school is client counseling with like, kid gloves, right? So explaining something and not saying like, look, we need the indemnity, to cover your infringement, we have to make sure that this is carved out from the limitation of liability. Like that doesn’t resonate with your average Joe. So talking about what kind of, you know, what does this feel like in the real world? What are the actual risks? What do we do about it? And a lot of that is like an education piece. You know, having conversations with the client about, you know, why is this important to you? And like, what helping empower them to ask questions about how this impacts them, because they, they’re the ones driving the commercial terms, they’re the ones driving the deal. I’m just there to hold their hand from a legal perspective and a risk allocation perspective. And so again, I’m like big on like metaphors and trying to help I use dating often, which is ironic, because I’ve been with my husband, since we were 17. And I, like have no idea how dating works anymore. But you know, I talk a lot about like, Look, guys, we’re prenup in the relationship, like we think we’re in love, we think that this is going to be you know, rainbows and butterflies. But what happens down the road if things don’t turn out as planned, you know, who’s going to take care of you know, the dog, how, who’s gonna keep the house, like, we need to think about these types of things. And usually, one it disarms them. Because legal gives a lot of business people, particularly anxiety, they feel like we are a hurdle, they feel like we are not on their team. And like, that’s, that’s why I went to law school, I am the legal problem solver. Like I am on every single team of my clients, I want them to see me as their trusted advisor, I don’t want to be I hate when lawyers get the reputation of being like just, you know, hurdles in the deal. Like that’s, that’s just like, not my vibe. And so one is like, I like to disarm them. I love making my clients laugh. Sometimes it’s not appropriate, but I do it. And I and then just like answering questions and being like, does that make sense to you and, and trying to empower them to feel like they understand the deal because the worst case scenario is that I make decisions for a client that they feel uncomfortable with, and then they sign a deal something goes wrong, and they come back to me and they’re like, what did we do this for and, and, and they can’t explain it themselves. So I think that’s how I like to make my clients feel special. I also am always very, very communicative about expectations on like turnaround, and availability, and all of those types of things. Every client thinks that they are the most important client and I like to make them believe that they are so doing my best to help that.
Suzi: I love that. So what would you say your superpower is as an attorney and human.
Danielle: Superpower? I can handle a lot, I have the, like, persistence and like, just capacity to take on a lot both substantively and otherwise, I find myself on the phone with clients often and thinking like, they are just like, they’re venting to me, like, I am the most expensive therapists in the world right now. And, and but, but it happens often. And my husband often says, like, it’s because you give them like, the trust that they feel like they can talk to you about whatever is happening from, you know, like, they’re frustrated with the deal that, you know, they’re talking about, like, the emotion behind that, and just being like a kind, you know, ear to listen to, and like, I have some emotional intelligence that I feel like people appreciate. But I take on a lot, I am extremely good at organizing my time and spinning 1000s and 1000s of plates simultaneously. A lot of feedback that I get is that like, you know, how did you do it? All those fun things? And like, it’s less of like, how do I do all of the things but like, when do I do all of the things because there’s going to be all of the things to do. It’s just trying to make it work. And so I’m very regimented. I have a very, very prescriptive lifestyle, I wake up every morning at four, and I work out and I have my mornings. And then I, you know, take my daughter to school and like, time block my day. So I would say just like, the ability to just just do and handle a lot. Of course, it’s to my detriment often because I often don’t, you know, raise my hands and say, like, you know, we’re going down like, I can’t handle anymore. So working on that.
Suzi: Right, yeah, sometimes it’s just as important to be able to, to not take it on right, and to be okay with saying no to certain things. So I think it’s really fascinating. You told me that you are also you’re also teaching at Michigan, right?
Danielle: Yes, I’ll be teaching a course next winter course. Registration just opened.
Suzi: I’m gonna go sign up right now. So this is this is really cool. And will this be your first experience teaching?
Danielle: Yeah, so in law school, I was part of this, this clinic, it was a lab where we worked with Fortune 500 companies, and basically did the projects that their in house teams didn’t have time for and they didn’t want to pay outside counsel for it. And I loved it. It was unbelievable gave me so much experience, the professor was amazing. And they no longer offer the lab. And in the last few years, you know, I often get cold calls from law students or from summer associates. And first years of like, I want to do the type of work you’re doing. Where do I learn more. And law school is historically not super helpful for transactional students generally, in providing them practical, you know, experiences, but even when you do get those practical experiences, right, you do have like, you know, your entrepreneurship clinic, your drafting or your, you know, negotiation, there’s no one really talking about like, IP transactions, or technology transactions or commercial transactions as it relates to technology and a burgeoning market. A ton of big laws, firms have huge practice groups as it relates to it. And so I was talking to a professor and I was like, you know, I wished they had just a class about this. And he was like, Okay, well, why don’t you teach it? And I was like, hey, that’s really funny. Because I would guess, lecture like, you know, in certain classes at Michigan, as it related to my practice, and I loved it always. And he was like, no, really like, like, talk to the dean about it. And so I did, and they were like, yeah, what would they work best for you? And I was like, Are you sure? Like I am, I am not qualified at all. And they were like, no, we want somebody kind of in the trenches that you know, remembers what it’s like to be a law student and a first year, second year, but kind of knows how to manage up, manage down. And so you’re perfectly situated to do this. And so I have a lot of impostor syndrome as it relates to it. But we are managing it and coping and I’ll let you know how it goes. No, yeah, I want you to come back on in.
Suzi: After you’ve started teaching, like let’s say, maybe in the spring, and then we can reconnect on it. I’d love to hear about your experience. But I think it’s really interesting that you, you know, so quickly say I’m not qualified. And I’m like you, you are so qualified, right? First thing I thought was, oh, no, she’s got impostor syndrome, right. Like, you just you don’t hear men saying that as much. Although men do have impostor syndrome. It’s just it’s so much more, I guess, pervasive amongst females to question like, Oh, should I really be here? Do I deserve this? Can I really give back the way that I want to in this position? And I have no doubt it’s going to be an amazing course.
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Suzi: You saw like a need, right? You saw that there was this missing piece? And you brought it up to someone? And they were so receptive. They’re like, yeah, come teach.
Danielle: Yeah.
Suzi: That’s yeah.
Danielle: It’s so funny. So my husband always says that, it’s not who you know, but it’s who knows you. So like, when people know, your character, when they know your value, and they know your personality, and they know, you know, the type of person you are and what you’re interested in. It’s way more valuable than you asking somebody for anything. And so, I mean, this was like, one of those perfect kinds of opportunities or examples of that, which I found a situation that I just I said something very off the cuff. And he was like, No, we’re gonna make this happen. And, and I kind of secretly always dreamed of teaching at Michigan, anywhere like, it’s, it’s so humbling, like, you know, just being on campus and thinking like, Oh, my God, I can’t believe that I’m here, whenever I get emails, and they’re like, Professor basket, like Foods That
Suzi: Could you foresee teaching, and Michigan or any university becoming a larger part of your kind of work portfolio?
Danielle: Yeah, I think that some one of the things that makes my heart super full, and I’m really passionate about is like, just sharing the experiences that I’ve had, because nobody really prepares you for life in big law, or in a big law firm. Generally, I mean, I felt super prepared to draft you know, the reps and warranties in an asset purchase agreement for, you know, a patent transaction or, you know, whatever, substantive, you know, task came my way. But like, how do you talk to clients? How do you manage your own work life balance, you know, air quotes it, how do you protect your time? How do you, you know, give feedback, how do you get feedback, and just some of these, like, very people oriented type of skills that you have to learn along the way. And I was super lucky to have great mentors and people who taught me a lot and protected me. And I don’t see that as much in my practice, or in the people that I am surrounded by and, and so in any way I can do that, for the people behind me, it’s totally, you know, a priority. But also, I see so many women of my year of yours above me leaving in droves. And, and going to either, you know, in house positions, which is totally fine. Going to private practice or contract positions, or just like leaving the practice altogether. And it’s so devastating to me at least because, like, I spent a lot of time and effort and money and like energy, getting my degree and I’m really, really proud of it. And I like what I do. Like I think it still feels like work. I don’t believe the you know, do what you love. You don’t work a day in your life. Like it’s work. It is hard, it is mentally exhausting. But do I leave feeling good about what I’m doing? Absolutely. And so when I see other women leaving, I think what tools do they not have? What values do they not have? Like, you know, those types of things. And so if I can empower, you know, 567 a dozen young women to stay and do what they wanted to do because they had those tools like excellent like dream come true.
Suzi: What are your thoughts on setting up kind of like, more rigid mentor relationships right like within the woods then a law firm like having like a structured program?
Danielle: Yeah.
Suzi: You go, that’s pretty simple go right. Like, where does the young women go? We leave, right? I mean, we come out of law school, most of us are women. And then by the time partnership rolls around. Like 15% of us are, you know, are represented. So what about mentorship programs within within law practices.
Danielle: So, I’m actually not a fan of formal mentorship, because I don’t think it’s organic. I think mentorship is something that happens along the way, right? Like, my best mentors, are people that I worked for, you know, in passing, I was a research assistant for a professor and like, you know, just had these interactions with him that would let me feel like he knew me and that I could trust him. And then, you know, I would call him and ask him, you know, about latterly, or about situations I was dealing with at work and like, felt like I could get, you know, some kind of feedback from him and things like that. And so, there’s those situations, there’s people that you are in leadership positions with, so I’m part of an organization called The Association for Corporate growth, which is a middle market kind of networking group, or chapters all over the world. And like, it’s not just lawyers, and I do a ton of work with recruiters and private equity people and investment bankers and accountants and things like that, and like, talking to them and learning from them. And just like interacting with them, I think mentorship is something that’s like, it’s like professional friendship, almost like, it’s like, I see you as a person, we have a professional relationship. And like, I want to be a deeper relationship. When you have this formal relationship in like a law firm, and you’re assigned somebody and like, it feels very rigid, like, you feel like you have to be there. And, you know, it’s like an arranged marriage, if you will, like, you know, let let me date let me find it, let me find the right mentor, the right fit for me, you know, when I came back from maternity leave, I was assigned a mentor, that, you know, was also a young mom. And to a certain extent, it was nice, but I also was like, craving, like, the partner that was like, you know, 20, like her kids were 20 years old, and she had done this and she could say, Look, your kids are gonna turn out fine. If you miss the last time one night, you know, or screw work, go to delivery, do what you need to do, like, this is not important, you will never get this back. And, and it took me, you know, sitting down with with, with the older partner, and just being really vulnerable and being like, I am struggling to figure out how to make this work. Like I had a, you know, a young baby or toddler at home and just being like, really vulnerable in that moment. And something that I frankly, would never have done with a male partner or colleague, and like teary eyed and she would looked at me and just like, was like, no, like, this is fine. And she, she had a full conversation with me. And that was something that wasn’t formal. She she owed me no time. And then I felt really comfortable to like, call her and thank her and talk to her. And, and that was like an organic experience that I never think I would have had, if it was a like matchmaker situation.
Suzi: Arranged marriage, right? That’s a good analogy and kind of goes back to your relationships and dating analogies that you like using, but I’m so okay. Like, let’s say, I’m a young associate, and kind of quiet, I’m kind of introverted. I’ve been thrown into this legal world, my family, I don’t come from a family full of lawyers. So I’m not super connected. So if I wanted to find a mentor, and initiate a conversation, would you do you have any guidance on that in terms of like, how to do it, who to look for and how to actually approach someone and how to maintain an amazing relationship? I just threw in like four questions there.
Danielle: So I will say to like the mentorship relationship is on the mentee. It’s not on a mentor. I have had mentor relationships where like, are people that like want to be my mentor and I’m like, I don’t want you as a mentor like I choose. I choose you as my mentor like you don’t choose me. So there is some onus on the mentee to like be proactive. And I think that that’s the right approach. And my advice, generally, in anything that that a young lawyer is doing is to look for the people and and the type of work that you think you want to do and 510 1520 years whatever it is, and say Do I like their life, you know of what I know do I Are they you know mid divorce never see their kids are they unhappy you know stay at offers all the time, or are there pictures of their kids and they’re leaving at four to go to dance or whatever the situation is like, look at their lifestyle, look at how happy they are. Look at their success and work. And if that’s something that you see in yourself is something of interest, then I would be really, really honest. And I would say, Hi, my name is Daniel, I’m a new associate at XYZ firm, and then doesn’t have to be at your firm. That’s where their secret is, like, I think some of the best mentors are not at your firm half the time. That’s a great idea. Yeah. And they don’t even have to be lawyers, sometimes there are other successful business people. But I would just say, you know, I’m starting out my career, I love how you’ve been able to navigate, whatever you’re interested in, you know, insert that I would love to take you to coffee, or do a zoom, or whatever it is, and just pick your brain on, you know, tips and tricks and like things that I might be able to learn along the way from you. And then you do that. And you are kind and generous. And you know, you spend the time. But it’s really relationship building. Like it’s if you if you hit it off, and you have a great conversation with somebody, like shoot them an email, say thank you. And then like six months later, or three months later, say like, I really enjoyed our conversation and thinking about what we talked about, and I’m dealing with this, do you mind getting lunch, and then you build those relationships over time. And I think a lot of the time young attorneys or just people in general want, you know, relationships to happen like that. But it’s, it takes time and energy and sewing. And so I think just treating it like that is a really great approach.
Suzi: So let me ask you, what is the biggest mistake that you think young lawyers are making right now?
Danielle: Not protecting their time. I just spoke at Michigan law in their entrepreneurship class, and was talking about how I’m very, very strategic about and intentional about protecting certain times. So every, every morning, I take my daughter to school. And that’s my time, and I am not available ever for that time. That’s my time for for for me and Leila. And then you know, I do bedtime, every single night. That’s my thing. And I do not take halls during that time there, you know. Wilson Sonsini is not going to burn down if I’m not available at 7pm. That means I have to be available afterwards. And sometimes it before and sometimes early in the morning. But I was talking about that. And a young woman raised her hand and was like, That’s really awesome. And like I like you know, the thought of that. But like, it’s a first year like, I don’t have that goodwill. So like, how do I protect my time? And and I think that’s true. I mean, I’ve earned a lot of my stripes. I think that the excellent, you know, a very astute observation. But at the same time, I said to her, You are the only one looking out for you. So you protect your time, it doesn’t mean I don’t not be available for like hours on end. But like, if yoga is really important to you, and like you want to make a 630 class that three days a week, block it off on your calendar, if you get an invite, or someone asks you to do something, I’m not available during that time, I can get to it at XYZ, and be intentional because no one is looking out for you. People think and I thought that there was a stop, you know, like a red button that just like an escalator, right that like stopped everything when it felt like too much. And there’s not that like big plasma machine, and you are a commodity? And if you say yes, they will keep giving it to you. So you are the only one to press that red button and say like No, no more, and to protect your time, protect your weekends, teach people how to treat you. You know, I think a lot of young attorneys think it’s like, cool to be super busy and build the most and it’s like super sexy to send emails at like 2am. Like, that’s not cool. Like I’m sleeping at 2am. Like, that is not that is not a lifestyle for success, like and most big law firm. It’s lockstep. So if I build 1950 Or if I build, you know, 2100 like, you don’t you don’t get a special prize for being more tired. And sometimes you do have to it sometimes you do have to do bat, right. Sometimes there’s big deals and some, you know, big cases where you’re required to work into the night and like that’s a exception and not the rule. So I would say being intentional from the get go about setting boundaries and keeping them and maintaining them. And that doesn’t mean you can’t have one or two times that you know you do work a weekend or you do work, you know, late into the night or you miss a yoga class or you know Whatever it is, but if you’ve got that baseline, you’re gonna be fine. And that’s gonna set you up for a career where you don’t burn out at your five, or where you’re not like looking to leave because you’re unhappy and setting you up for like, a long career.
Suzi: Yeah, and I think it’s so important that you’re protecting your own mental health. Right? And not letting people breach those boundaries that you set up.
Danielle: Yeah, it’s, it’s because people, when people prioritize, like, I, I don’t live to work, I work to live, right. And so when people prioritize their job over their family, or their health or anything else, like, you’re gonna lose those other things. And I see too many colleagues who have mental health issues who aren’t eating who have lost relationships with friends and family, or you know, spouses or children and like, no job in the world is worth that.
Suzi: No, no. So you had said, I’d asked you, these is a good tie in what’s your must share strategy or piece of advice, and I want to read what you said. And I think this, this ties in perfectly with what you just said. Danielle said time is of the essence, invest time in what brings you joy and pure love. Everything else is a waste of time. Maybe this is partly because of the pandemic, I’m not really sure. But people do seem to be reflecting, right? And they’re kind of analyzing Where have I been spending my time, right? Because we get so caught up kind of in the will of, of doing life. And we don’t take that time to really just sit down and reflect where are we spending our time? Like what is really important to us? What were our priorities? So and I just think that your piece of advice here is is like a perfect quote, right? Time is of the essence invest time in what brings you joy and pure love. Everything else is a waste of time. Danielle bass, I love that. So where can people find you, Danielle? Yeah.
Danielle: So I’m at Wilson Sonsini. You can always reach out to me through there or LinkedIn. Happy to always connect with other attorneys. Whether or not you’re in my practice area or not. And yeah.
Suzi: awesome. Well, Danielle, thank you so much for hanging out with me today. This has been a lot of fun. And I hope that we can connect again in a few months because I would love to hear about how teaching is going. Professor bass.
Danielle: Yes, my pleasure.
Suzi: Thank you so much for hanging out with us today on legally bliss conversations. If you love this episode, and you want to hang out with other inspiring and light gold female attorneys, be sure to join the legally bliss community at legally blessed.com And be sure to follow me on Instagram at Susie Hixon. See you next time.
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