Season 1, Episode 007

In this episode of Legally Blissed Conversations, we are joined by Christine Vartanian, the founder of Jade. For All Seasons COLLECTIVE in Newport Beach, California.

Christine is a Personal Style Expert who styles women with head-to-toe wardrobes. She has styled her clients for business, everyday life, video shoots, photoshoots, and even for the Grammys.

Surprisingly, Christine’s formal education is not in the creative arts – she is a Civil Engineer and a Lawyer. Her passion is making women feel like a million bucks when it comes to their image.

Listen in for some great style tips and to hear why Christine insists we ‘slow down, and appreciate the seasons of life.





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DISCLAIMER: The following is the output of transcribing from an audio recording. Although the transcription is largely accurate, in some cases, it is incomplete or inaccurate due to inaudible passages or transcription errors.

Suzi: Welcome Miss Christine vartanian. She is a civil engineer and attorney turned personal style expert. She’s the founder of j for all seasons in Newport Beach, California. J for all seasons stress its clients for their personal and professional lives in person and virtually making daily style effortless. Christine’s passion is unveiling the inner competence of those she serves by making them feel great in their outfits for their everyday image and workplace style. She specializes in the development of signature styles that are aligned with personal brands. As an image consultant, she focuses on everything that goes into brand alignment. During the life of her company, Christina style company executives photoshoots and brand photographs. She developed her secret sauce to having a flexible year round wardrobe. She has served on the fit of museum Council it will talk about that and has been featured in multiple publications including Newport Beach magazine. Recently and because of the workforce, now working mainly virtually she created a series of offerings called waste of wardrobe. This includes the waist up wardrobe podcast in show, her podcast focuses on how to have outstanding virtual office, from the clothes you wear to space and set design and more. For interior design institute certification informs her design of client sets as they navigate the virtual working world. She was inspired to start Jade in waist up wardrobe to build ease into the lives of entrepreneurs who do it all allowing their brand and image to shine. Welcome, Christine, thank you so much for hanging out with me today.

Christine: Thank you for having me. I’m so thrilled to be here. Yeah.

Suzi: Okay, so let’s do an earring competition. Who has the biggest earrings today? I don’t know I think you won.

Christine: You know, I am the big yearly earring stylist that you are. 

Suzi: One thing I love is that like you got me a lot more comfortable wearing larger earrings on set and actually utilizing assessories as sort of your exclamation point right to your wardrobe. So Christina, will you tell me a little bit about like, kind of your philosophy behind styling and maybe a little bit about your secret sauce?

Christine: Yeah, so styling for me, you know? Well, the whole business model started out as styling the person or the entrepreneur really involved the head to toe wardrobing, dressing them with clothes, getting him ready for stage, or for whatever really life throws at them if they’re in the business world. But in my philosophy is so hugely revolves around the idea that clothing it’s not about the clothes, which sounds ironic, it’s more about how the clothes are a tool to uplevel, the inside style, which is your emotional vibration, your confidence, your ability to show up in a way that commands a stage and dominates really in business, and really shows that you are you get that your image is part of your brand. So my philosophy is really unusual in the sense that I always say it’s not about the clothes and clothes are only a tool. It’s about how you actually how I style the inside.

Suzi: I love that. So when you are approaching styling lawyers versus entrepreneurs in general, is there any way that you go about it any differently or is it just kind of go back to what you’re saying? It’s about kind of that inside that matters?

Christine: No, actually thank you for asking that question because that’s so it’s so important. It’s so it’s such a key ingredient to the work that I do and what really holds me and sets me apart from other personal style experts. So I I’m really about building a signature style for each individual and what to say Interest style is it’s really something that is very personal, very customized. And that’s what makes me a little bit different than, you know, just, you know, just getting a great outfit. It’s more about who you are, what are your sensitivities? What are your hobbies? What’s your brand? What’s your brand colors? What line of work are you in, because you can’t be a lawyer and show up to court. And, you know, in a denim jacket, so there’s definitely a different way. There’s definitely a different way of styling somebody who is in a corporate world a professional line of work versus somebody that might be in more of a casual working force. And, and that’s so critical to the work that I do, it’s really all about creating a signature style, the upper levels, both outside style and the inside style. 

Suzi: Yeah, so I guess there should be sort of a disclaimer here that Christine helped me go through this entire process, right, in terms of like, with the waist up wardrobe, as well as helping me with my Zoom background. So as part of that process, I do recall that because we did this in last year, we did a pretty extensive intake, and I do recall, you know, asking me some pretty in depth questions about branding. And of course, you know what my career is? But so what, how many attorneys are you working with right now. 

Christine: So it’s interesting, because I have just a handful of attorneys, but and most of my clients are really in the business world. They’re entrepreneurs. I mean, I, I have clients who are restaurant tours, like restaurant owners, I have clients who have started a lot of, of course, because there’s this trend of, of mentor, ship and coaching, because everybody understands how important it is to, you know, hire experts. So I have a lot of coaching people in the coaching industry, people are CPAs, that’s a different professional, you know, line of work, I have a handful of attorneys and lawyers. It’s interesting, though, I find that attorneys, although they know they need to show up, you know, professionally with a suit, that they are not so interested in, like a sort of a signature style, you know, they’re more interested in just being in a corporate look. And that’s fine. You know, everybody has their own way they want to show up. But I really have clients all over the spectrum, I have a lot of people who live a very casual lifestyle and have to even be casual in the field in their line of work. And that also requires up leveling. So you know, so lawyers are not a huge I really all over the spectrum, which I love. Because then it’s so different and eclectic.

Suzi: Yeah, I’m sure it’s like challenging in different ways, right? Just like what you said, like, you have, you know, just working with attorneys who maybe do want to kind of blend in more with cut, you know, naturally being in a more conservative field. Can you at least help them a little bit in terms of putting some type of exclamation point on their black suits?

Christine: Yeah, that’s what we do. Yeah.

Suzi: So let’s talk about can you tell, like, give me give me a really good lawyer style tip and that and the reason I love like, I want to go into your background a little bit too, but you are you have been a practicing lawyer. So you very much you’re cracking up you very much understanding or appreciate the world that a lot of us are, are living in, right, more conservative environment, especially like in law firm, and then that, you know, it’s there still that? What is the word like, you know, when you go into the courtroom, you know, it’s there’s a kind of that expectation that you’re not coming in there. And in the jean jacket, right. Or the yoga pants, no matter what. You know, some courtrooms are even more conservative than others, you know, so, yeah. So tell me a little bit about like, how you think attorneys, female attorneys can kind of like put on that exclamation point in, you know, typically conservative wardrobe.

Christine: Yes. Well, there’s a lot of really good little ideas. And so I mean, I remember back to the days when I was practicing law and then the 90s I, you know, we some courtrooms, you couldn’t wear pant suits, which is so weird. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, so there it is very much a conservative setting, and it’s still remained so not in that extreme, but still, you do have to show up in a certain way in front of a judge in a courtroom. So when it comes to creating a signature style for somebody like a lawyer who is in a very traditional professional line of work, it can be very, it can be very exciting, you know, to introduce lawyers to Oh, you could do this too, like one of the main tips I have especially for my lady attorneys As you know, it kind of veering away from the idea that your suit has to be this matched up suit from head to toe, like the black blazer that matches the skirt. You know, yes, you can do that. But it’s also really cool to be able to mix it up a little bit, right. So take a great blazer that maybe isn’t a, you know, a great color, like the one you’re wearing a lighter blue, and then throw on, you know, a different color skirt, like a cream or clay or like a lighter tone, rather than just pair it with just the blue that it came with. Right. So that’s one way where somebody who’s in a conservative line of work like in the law field, you know, you can actually mix it up a little bit and really flex your wardrobe better. So you treat your suits as separate your suit pieces. 

Suzi: That is amazing advice. Okay, so I’m not like in the big firm environment anymore. So, but I do, you know, look back to that world. And I had my suits together my jackets, with the matching skirt, right or the pants, sometimes I would get crazy and buy both the pants and the skirt that match match the jacket. And I would mix up maybe the shorts that would go underneath it that was about it and put like maybe a scarf with it. But I love the idea of getting a little wild here. Get a little crazy at the law firm and putting on kind of like you said like a jacket sort of like this maybe with something that which is a clay like a clay color.

Christine: Yeah, like a neutral, you know, a new color. Yeah. But also, can I give another tip with that? Yeah, so even like now, you know, trends or trends and like the things they see on the runway, that’s just for show that’s not real life. Clothes, right? Even like people are super trendy, don’t wear what you see on the runway, our show, right?

Suzi: Like I’m looking at runways like an art show.

Christine: Right? Exactly. But it does offer inspiration to the people who really like to be current in their wardrobe and to designers, it’s what you see happen, right? The Evolution like when you see studs on the on the runway, it might be like big studs coming out of your head. But in real life, the way they translate it is you know, a standard bag or a studded you know, earring or whatever. So, so there’s ways that you adapt it to real people and real life. But um, you know, as a lawyer, you know what would be kind of fun that isn’t way outside of them. Being conservative would be like taking a blazer and maybe belting it on the outside. So you’re wearing a blazer with a pencil skirt and you take a Great Belt and you belt it. So like on the outside so that’s the feds can the belt have said Well, that depends whose quarter you’re stepping into. But yes, it absolutely if your personality loves that little micro studs, you know of course there’s studs in there studs, right? I mean, so if your your levels, yeah, there’s all these levels. So there’s micro studs that you can you can embellish with and add that to your wardrobe. And you know what, you know what’s really great to add to your wardrobe even if you are very conservative, a great pair of statement earrings.

Suzi: Yes, let’s talk about statement earrings. Statement earrings for for lawyers, you actually really helped me get more comfortable wearing statement earrings, and I bought a pair or two or 10 from you. So tell me a little bit about like your philosophy with with statement earrings and statement jewelry as well.

Christine: Yeah. So I you know, part of the idea of the statement earrings for me, it’s special to me, because I just dig statement earrings. I mean, I feel like it just kind of frames your face, at least personally for me. And especially if you’re on camera a lot. You can’t really do a lot of accessorizing but you could one piece of accessory that brings harmony to your look without having like layers of necklaces and bracelets, making noises and a bracelet that Yeah, but it’s like one piece of jewelry that can bring harmony to your look and feel, you know, kind of feel B parentheses on your face. So it just kind of brings harmony to look but but you know, I’m actually starting a whole steamy earring club because people are really digging this look right and I have people asking me all the time. Can you start like a subscription for steamy earrings? And so basically I’m starting the the big earring club very soon because I’ve got people like really asking me this.

Suzi: Me Up for the big areas. Okay, good. Is that what you’re gonna call it? We’re gonna call it.

Christine: You know, I mean, I’m gonna have to wordsmith a little bit with you because you’re the you’re the word genius. Yeah, we have to talk about it.

Suzi: Yeah. So good ideas. Like I can tell that you definitely get inspiration from the people that you talk with. Right? Like, you’re like, Oh, I really need this. Like when the pandemic happened, right. We we knew that we had to kind of up level our presence on care. Tomorrow, we couldn’t be hanging out in our bedroom with like, you know, the dog like, well, the dogs in backgrounds are totally acceptable in my book. But you know, we don’t need to be seeing someone’s bed. Right? So you definitely took cues from people, right? Like your clients like, Okay, I think people need help with their wardrobe from the waist up. So let’s, let’s talk a little bit about that I’d love for you to tell me a little bit more about like, background sets, like kind of your philosophy behind that. Unless you have anything else you want to say about big earring club, because I think it sounds awesome. I can’t wait.

Christine: The only thing about big earrings, honestly, it’s it’s my thing. I like big saving earrings. And what I found is that people really like it. And they’ve thought, Oh, let me try it. And I just want to say one thing, it’s not about having the giant most giant earrings, right? I happen to like earrings that really are pretty large for most people. And these are super light, the ones I’m wearing. So I do surprise you like, because because most ladies that they don’t they get they don’t like it to be heavy, it’s painful, and it’s not comfortable. So I do seek out semi earrings that are light, because I understand that challenge. And that goes back to really creating customized experiences for my clients. You know, I know I’m going a little off topic, but back to the original questions. When I’m doing that intake and discovery. I’ve had clients say, you know, Christine, I have, we’re down to the granular right. I have fibromyalgia don’t ever put anything on my skin as jewelry. And so I have to come up with a solution because they like accessorizing. So in that instance, we came up with her thing, her signature accessory was the hair clip. So she always had like something in her hair. That was like pretty like an accessory. So that was her solution. So those are the kinds of solutions that you get in my process. But back to the same earrings, I just feel like they are such a big bang for your buck. You could just wear just the earrings and you’ve got a complete look. Now we sit for a job. I know that.

Suzi: That was good. That was good. And I’m having ideas about big bang for your buck. With your bangle like I don’t know, like that. names, like percolating in my brain right now. But anyway,

Christine: well, this is where I have to, you know, give credit to you. Because when we met we were we were part of a masterminding program. And we were in a mastermind breakout room. And we were sitting down and we were in the middle of the pandemic. And we were brainstorming and the waste of water really came as a result of you just spilling out words. So I appreciate that. And I just want to give you credit for that. So thank you for that.

Suzi: My pleasure. And it’s a beauty of a mastermind too, right?

Christine: Yeah. So when it comes to sets in your background, I really believe that we support isn’t just about the clothes again, it goes back to my original philosophy, right? My work is never just about the clothes, it’s about how close our tool but also when it comes to a sub wardrobe. It’s not just about the clothes because I you know, with just having recorded episode 85 of my waist up wardrobe show, as you can tell, you can’t really speak on 85 topics of clothes. I mean, come on, you know people get tired, right? But it’s about mindset, your mindset comes through camera, it’s about positioning, it’s about body language is about what that looks like behind you. And I have such a strong belief about that. So first of all, nobody wants to see your bed. Nobody, nobody wants to see your bed in the background, let alone an unmade bed. Nobody wants that. What your teacher doesn’t want to see if you’re a lecturer your colleagues don’t want to see that your boss doesn’t want to see it the judge if you’re an attorney, he doesn’t want to see it. Nobody wants to see it be in that very personal space. Okay, so that’s an absolute NO. And so people were showing up like that, and it’s because they weren’t used to doing this right. But now we’re better at this new world. Yeah, yeah. But beyond just the bed in the background, it’s you can actually use your background as a billboard for your brand. Like why not take that opportunity, you can actually have something in your background that reflects who you are, what your brand is, what your hobbies are, and create interest in the people listening to you’re watching you about who you are. So that’s what is my basic philosophy when it comes to waist up wardrobe.

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Suzi: So what are your thoughts about like the green screen backgrounds that have like the fake ocean front? You know, multi million dollar house overlooking like the beach, you don’t talk about? I know you’ve seen these popular last year, but what are your thoughts about those backgrounds?

Christine: Yeah, so here are my honest, authentic thoughts about it. I don’t like them. And but I do feel it. In some instances, people need to use them because they’ll be traveling, for instance, and maybe they you know, and they need to have something a little bit more appropriate than a hotel room, maybe in the background. So I understand that, but they should be used very sparingly. First of all, psychologically, when people see you in a set where you’re not like, where it’s looks like you’re it’s hidden, right, you’re hiding something people go, what are they hiding behind them? That is logical? And that’s real. That’s like scientific, like psychological facts.

Suzi: So people think that but I’m back there, even subconsciously, you’re kind of. Yeah,

Christine: I mean, even if you see I have my screen behind me. But it’s, it’s transparent to some detail transparent. Yeah. So it’s still like you could see behind me, so nobody’s like, What are you hiding? Right. But with those backgrounds, and the green screens, first of all, people think that okay, but let’s say that wasn’t an issue. Nobody really cared about that. It also it also is kind of distracting. If we’re not trying, we’re trying to have people focus on our message rather than being distracted by how we’re looking. It’s not that’s failing right there. Because if you don’t do it, right, and you get keyed out in certain places, because you have this green screen, you’ll find that, you know, when people are moving, it kind of gives us Halo. years like glitch. Yeah. And that’s one real big negative about it. Right. And it’s kind of unauthentic. Like, I mean, I don’t want to I don’t want to display some big ocean view behind me. If I don’t have that. It’s just doesn’t feel like me. So I really think, yeah, I think it’s good to have it as a backup if you’re traveling, but that should not be your permanent set, especially if you’re somebody who’s on camera all the time. 

Suzi: Yeah, I think that’s good. That’s good advice. I, I guess when I think about the green screen background, I just immediately think kind of like there’s something not authentic going on here. Right. And let’s like you said, there are there are obviously exceptions to every rule, every rule. So

Christine: yeah, absolutely. There’s those I call them guidelines more than rules, because everything is a guideline, right? Because there’s always going to be an exception, there’s always going to be a special reason why something might not work, just as you expect it.

Suzi: So I need to know a little bit about your transition out of practicing law into what you’re doing now. And, and kind of like, what was your inspiration for that? And you’re the impetus and like your why.

Christine: Yeah, so I transitioned and retired from lawyering, way before I started my business I, you know, I really wasn’t a lawyer at heart it was it was a great education, I still use it in my daily life, because you know, education is never a wasted thing. But I was never somebody that I there was aspects about the law that I loved. But, but I knew that I would not stay in that area for a long, long time. So I practice law for a short little career, five years. And then I knew my husband and I really were very, we were certain that we wanted to set ourselves up so that I can stay home and raise the kids. And he was able until I transitioned to our family to be able to do that. And then I ended up being a stay at home mom, for 10 years, I feel very privileged, I was able to do that. Because I know not everybody is but I felt like I was just in the right place I needed to be at the time and I spent 10 years, just raising having babies and raising them. And that was amazing. And so we had four kids during that time. And it was during that and I always knew that I would start a business at some point in my life. I just didn’t know when and I didn’t know what and I didn’t want it to be just like I hung a shingle and became an interior designer because a lot of my peers were doing things like that, you know, like as a hobby business and that wasn’t what I wanted. I want something transformational, meaningful and something that really spoke to my wife. So during the 10 years of being a sail, stay at home mom, I witnessed so many of my friends totally letting go of their self care completely. You know, they weren’t eating healthy. They weren’t dressing themselves. They weren’t putting any makeup on they I mean and you know, I’m not talking about like full makeup. I’m talking like even just a little blush and lipstick, right. They they were dressing their kids and it can look cute and healthy and happy. But they were giving of themselves and depleting themselves in the in the interest of others. And that’s what generally women tend to do. It’s just our nature of being nurturers. Sometimes we forget about ourselves. And sometimes it just becomes too much work to go there, right? So I was just like, ladies, no, you can do all those things. You can be somebody who works in and out of the house, you could be a stay home mom, you could be somebody who volunteers in the community and raises kids and is a wife, all that thing, but you also can be there for yourself. And you can give a little bit of that time for you. And I was just and I had a lot of friends that used to want me to go shopping with them. And I just decided one day, I’m like, Okay, I know, I’m gonna do something. And I thought, I’m gonna design outfits for my friends, and people. And I had this big party. And I invited everybody I knew, and I style people with wardrobe, like, several outfits. And they walked away happy. And I made the I made like, $5,000 in a day, I was like, Oh, I’m onto something here. And that’s how it started. And I love it. That’s, you know, why it started?

Suzi: I think that’s such an amazing story. So when you look back at your legal career, and I think that you underestimate you like your career a little bit, because you kind of said something like, oh, just five years, I mean, five years. That’s pretty darn good, right? Like, that’s plenty of time to really start digging your heels in literally into the practice of law. Right. So when you look back on your career, where do you see what you learn as a lawyer impacting you now as a business owner, and entrepreneur?

Christine: Yeah, that’s a really good question. And I was on an interview not that long ago, where somebody asked me why you left the lawyering career and to be home with your kids. And I, my answer to that piece was, I got that a lot. You know, when I was a younger mom, and my answer, I always laughed at that, because I thought it was really a funny perspective, because I view educating a woman as educating a family and, and I use my education, to educate my children and in everything that I did, I mean, whether it was negotiating with them, or, or being commandeering with them, or, you know, teaching them how to be creative, all those things I learned as an attorney, being able to adjust and pivot and all those things I learned in my career as attorney and all those things informed my motherhood, job, the job, my career as a mom. And so back to your original question about how I see it today impacting me, I mean, I, as a lawyer, you probably can relate to this. I’m always thinking like a lawyer. So I’m always thinking about if something comes up about liability, about looking at it from different perspectives, the analytical part of trying to analyze how something will work for somebody or not. As a lawyer, I find I feel as though you you are that person that when somebody engages you, as their lawyer, you’re basically taking their problem and loading it up onto your shoulders, and carrying them through that. And my work today, I will take generally a woman because I most of my clients are women, I’ll take her pain of not feeling as confident as she wants to feel not feeling beautiful at times, and I’ll fold it into myself and I’ll carry that for them and guide them through it. And actually, I just got chills because that really resonates with me as a person and I and I hope I like I fold them into me and it’s kind of that same idea when you’re a lawyer you do that with for your clients and when you are when when you’re in my line of work the way I do it with my process, that’s what I do. My mothering role Oh yeah.

Suzi: Yeah, yeah.

Christine: I have a really good answer for that original question you asked about how my mothering career impacts my current career. I was just talking about this at my last a mastermind that I was at and, and so I always like to say that I call myself my clients fairy godmother. And the thing that I love most is that I treat my clients like they’re my children with no, that sounds kind of strange. But what bigger love is there out there than the love of a mother for her children. And I just when I when somebody engages me, and trust me that much to invest with me, you know, they trust me that I will take care of them that I will nurture them through this process that they’re actually giving me money to, to invest in to invest in me for them. I feel very I hold that very dear. And I feel nurturing towards them. I feel like I’m their mom. Like I even told my mom that my cleanse with my children. She’s like, what they’re not your children, but I’m but they are, you know, it’s metaphorical. And I feel as though that’s my role for them is to care for them, like a mom would, when they were little, their mom dressed them now that they’re a little older. I dress them. And so I the mothering experience really, it’s a very nurturing experience as a as a personal style expert for them. Does that answer your question? 

Suzi: It does, it does. I think that you really kind of took that keyword nurturing, right? Like your, your nurturing as a mother and you took that experience of nurturing. And, you know, I can 100% say for a fact, like, that’s how I felt working with you. Right, like I felt very cared for. And I think that, you know, I even mentioned, on occasion, like, Oh, I feel like you’re my, like my big sister helping me like, you know, dressed and do all of these things. Because you were just always there for me to lean into when I had questions. And that was not just about, you know, helping me with my Zoom set. But also with dressing in your, in your still are which is, which is amazing. And by the way, I need to get some basics so we can talk after the show. But you know what, that might be actually something kind of fun to touch on a little bit too, if you would like if you have a little time, like, we are getting a little close to time but and I don’t want to, I want to be respectful of your time. And but I would love to know your thoughts kind of on basics for lawyers, and just a couple of your, like, favorite pieces that you recommend, recommend. And one thing I love about you, you are also and this is something you did not mention, I think is really important. Like as a mom, you were you taught your your kids like their ABCs, right? Like, I’m sure these little rug rats knew their ABCs before they started preschool, I know the vartanian children dead so and that is something that you’ve you have integrated into this sort of your your style philosophy. So I’d love for you to talk about that a little bit.

Christine: Yeah, I like to I love that. I love that. Yes, I will do it all in that shell. So as a mom, I learned and just as a as a lifelong learner myself, I as somebody who really loves to learn, I when I struggled learning with something a topic or subject or something I would do, I would stop everything I’m doing. And I would break it down into baby steps into ABCs into like, let me just take it one little bit at a time. If I take it one little bit at a time. If I just you know, take it slowly then I will get the big picture and it worked for me. So and I find that it worked as a mom like when something was a conflict or struggle if I broke it down and helped help my child understand it in smaller pieces. Then they actually got the big picture all of a sudden right. So same goes with my philosophy with clothes and dressing people. I I come up with the ABCs for almost everything I feel like style is a language and every language has an alphabet. And when it comes to basics, I feel they’re like, they’re amazing. They’re so essential to your wardrobe, you have to have the basics that you were referring to earlier. Because if you don’t have a basic the basics, you’re going to be one of those people that walks into your closet says, Oh, I have so many things. And I always feel like I have nothing to wear. That yeah, the almost everybody does that. And it’s because most of the time is because people have not curated the important basics and basics. This is the way to think about basics. This is my philosophy is that if a vowels are the glue that holds the words together in the alphabet, your basics function as the glue that pull your outfits together. So imagine not having any basics, it’s going to be really hard to make outfits out of your low. So that’s one basic philosophy, no pun intended. One lot of mine that I really teach my clients and I showed them how that works. As far as like I said, style is a language and every language has this has an alphabet, i Anything I do, I will create a pneumonic based on ABC. So I did a whole client experience to talk to a group of bridal store owners. And it was sort of the customer experience ABCs and a stood for audience B stood for Building C stirred for curating, I mean, so that’s how it works. And so everything that I do, I really try and roadmap through the ABC. So whatever it is, it’s if it’s the you know, if it’s basic ABCs or, you know, you know, the customer journey ABCs or, you know, the ABCs to finding trend, it’s always about that and the pneumonic chain, the pneumonic is the same, it’s about ABCs. And I could take it all the way to z if I wanted to.

Suzi: I’m challenging me to you’re doing, you’re gonna, you’re gonna get through.

Christine: was a problem. X might be a problem, or we can just cross out something I don’t need a xylophone

Suzi: I don’t know, we’ll figure something out. I am very confident. You recently did a podcast on I want to say it was on kind of updating your wardrobe for the spring. Yeah. And use a pneumonic device then.

Christine: Yeah, I’m trying to remember that specific episode, but I did do a pod get past podcasting. ABCs because many people after I created my podcast, wanted me to teach them how to put, you know, start up a podcast. So like, podcasts ABCs. And a stood for audience and be stirred for brand and C stood for something else. So you know. And so for the for the wardrobe, I can’t remember that specific episode. But yes, I mean, that’s just how I built the baby steps into learning something for somebody.

Suzi: I love that. And like I said, it’s such a great way to have integrated just your, you know, being a stay at home mom, right? So I think that you make a really good point that like there’s so no matter what stage of life we’re at, like we’re learning things, and we can take things that we learn and apply it to like a second career and so many people are like, Oh, well, my life will be stagnant. If I’m a stay at home mom for five years or 10 years, and I hear people fret about this, I’ll never be able to get back into the workforce, you know, all of these, like, I think sort of natural trepidations. But at the end of the day, we’re always learning, right? We’re always going no matter what we what we’re doing, and it’s always valid.

Christine: Yep, exactly. I truly believe that. And I think that, you know, I think the career of being a lawyer is so robust. I feel like you can really do anything with a law degree. Because it informs so many areas of life and Spirit just, it’s good to know the law and inform so many different areas of life and, and be going through law school and the bar exam and all that that is a tough process. If you can get through that. I mean, there’s so much you can adapt and learn from that and be able to teach others.

Suzi: So if you could write a letter to yourself. The day after you graduated from law school, what would you what piece of advice, would you tell yourself?

Christine: Yeah, I would say, appreciate the season and the moment you’re in every moment of your life. Because sometimes, as business owners or professionals, we’re like, well, we want to quickly climb up the ladder, you quickly want to scale our business. And the reality is, there’s no quick way to get there. You just have to trust that you’re exactly in the right place at that given moment. And going faster isn’t going to get you there any faster. It’s just going to cause you anxiety. So just sometimes and we all go through that I go through all the time. I’m like, I just want to implement this idea and be done. But the reality is that you have to appreciate the process. You have to marinate in the process. You have to get that experience as you go to be able to reach that goal. So my advice, the one piece of big advice I would be is don’t rush things just appreciate the season you’re in. And I’ll say that every phase of my life so far, I’ve really slowed myself down to really think that and then just reflecting back for for, like, you know, for that past part of my life, I feel like I had this privilege and honor when I thought about that, to really appreciate where it was at a given moment.

Suzi: I love that so much, Christine. So good. So So in addition to the big ass beautiful earring club that you’re coming out with, what’s next for you? What’s next for waste of wardrobe and Jade, and I’d love for you to talk a little bit about for all seasons versus maybe the style and all of that goodness. So

Christine: well, the business of growing up, the business is growing up. I mean, this is my ninth year in business and it’s growing. It’s growing up, it’s maturing. And you know, I when I started a baby business, it was Jade for all seasons because that’s what it was at the time. And that’s just where it came from. It was Jade, the stone Jade is very symbolic of health and wellness. And so that was where I what I was truly believed that I was contributing to women’s health and wellness by up leveling there, you know, inside and for all seasons was just sort of a, you know, that was my being able to say that’s something you do all year round. But now that I have different suites in my business and different silos really, I wanted to create a house because I’m a nurturer. I want to create a place where women come to be they feel safe, they feel happy, they feel joy they feel served in every area of their lives and the house houses right now three suites, the suite of styling you your your head to toe wardrobe, the suite of styling you on camera, we step wardrobe, and the suite of brands styling you which is your brand colors, your brand logo and everything. It really goes into brand exploring your why that deeper why? So all of those things, I do that with my clients, and they all are housed under the Jade houses style. So that’s what’s next in evolution. It’s evolving from my baby business to my more maturing business and being able to serve women with a woman entrepreneur professional, were in every area of their brand.

Suzi: Okay, I love that. So where can people find you, Christine? Yeah,

Christine: so I am everywhere on social media. I am for the professional. I’m on LinkedIn under Christine vartanian. I am on Instagram as Jade House of Style and waist up wardrobe. I’m on Facebook. At Jade for all seasons currently because I’m in the transition period. And waist up wardrobe. That’s where my show goes live every Thursday on Facebook that we slip wardrobe and my website is it is way simpler. But it’s also Jade for Jade house of

Suzi: And I think you forgot Did you mention YouTube?

Christine: I am on YouTube and everywhere

Suzi: I stalk you is on YouTube because I’m a YouTuber, not a Facebook. I’m not on Facebook that much. But it’s I’m not always but I do like to kind of jump in on those lives that you do on Thursday. And you’re so consistent.

Christine: Yeah, well, I mean, the only way to build and grow and to and to you know, really create my dream my big picture vision is to stay consistent. So that’s really important to me, even though sometimes I don’t feel like doing my show. And even though sometimes it’s really hard to come up with a topic and nice fresh topic. I mean 85 episodes so far everywhere feel fresh, there’s better episodes than there are others but you know, there’s something somebody out there it will be touched by something. And then I also I also on iTunes, a show we support it is on iTunes so you can listen. Okay? Yeah, rather than just watch out though. It is a very visual show, but very visual. Yeah, but you can also just listen to on iTunes. We’re on Spotify as well and, and YouTube, of course.

Suzi: Thank you so much for hanging out with me today. Thank you. Thank you so much fun.

Christine: Thank you for having me.

Suzi: Thank you so much for hanging out with us today on legally bliss conversations. If you love this episode, and you want to hang out with other inspiring and light gold female attorneys, be sure to join the legally bliss community at legally And be sure to follow me on Instagram at Suzan Hixon. See you next time.

Leveraging Your Law Degree to Design a Creative Career with Christine Vartanian

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